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Jon Palmer
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Team news, live updates and reaction all here this afternoon:

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/s ... ve-9700625
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Shade
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What a f#!$ shambolic mess that was. Gurkhas just stood there at the sid of the pitch and then ushered away after the minutes silence without placing their wreath.
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Crikey Carl Jenkinsons career has gone down hill since Arsenal. 100 premier league appearances and an England cap
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Just gone a little further down hill :D
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Was it him that got sent off?
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Yep
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Archer you beauty. Didn't look like enough room to get it in but he finds a way
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Shade wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 15:00 What a f#!$ shambolic mess that was. Gurkhas just stood there at the sid of the pitch and then ushered away after the minutes silence without placing their wreath.
What an embarrassment
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That was a bit disappointing, we only realised we were playing against 10 men at home in the last 5 mins.

Tactically out thought today unfortunately.
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We were just poor against ten men, especially in the second half, playing the long ball and giving up possession. Fair play to Bromley, they played some decent football throughout.
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Horrendous tactics after going 1-0 up. Played right into the land of the giants hands.
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Ihearye
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Sat back and invited a big team to hit balls into the box. And paid the price
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Thought Archers defending today was exceptional
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Very disappointing and sloppy performance against 10 men. We just invited them forward and eventually one of those balls into the box was going to end up in the net.
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Ihearye wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 17:55 Thought Archers defending today was exceptional
His all round game is superb. Given he's only played 14 or so EFL games, I think he's going to be at least a top L1 player. Probably Championship.
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Obviously a disappointing result having played 11 v 10 for over an hour and taking the lead. Felt we played into their hands with far too many high balls upto Miller who whilst game and never gave up was on to a loser against their giant defenders.

When we looked dangerous was when we got it on the floor and played with a bit of pace, the goal came from a passage of play like this but we didn't do it enough

Hopefully we learn and move on and on the plus side another game unbeaten.
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Bloke next to me was raging at Miller. We had words.

Poor George spent the entire game with his back to goal, having hopeful long balls smashed up to him, while being clattered by a succession of hulks. He had no chance.

It was brainless at times. The way to play Bromley is play round them, but we didn’t have the guile to do that.
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Ihearye wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 16:53
Shade wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 15:00 What a f#!$ shambolic mess that was. Gurkhas just stood there at the sid of the pitch and then ushered away after the minutes silence without placing their wreath.
What an embarrassment
So then they came on and placed their wreath in the centre circle at half-time. Left the pitch, but told to come back put and do it all over again because the photographer missed it first time.

Certainly not dignified. Ceremonies don’t “just happen” - they need to be planned properly in advance, and details communicated properly to all those involved, including in this case the referee, photographer etc.
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Strange game.
Shows you how subjective foitball is....I thought Miller deserved a standing ovation!

We seemed to be cruising but we could all see they were dangerous from set peices.

We would have taken draw at start I think...but against 10 men feels like 2 points dropped.

After the goal they were there for taking but we started lumping ot forward.

Then when they equalised...we shifted the ball quickly from side to side...what we should have done when 1 up!!

Colwill was quiet today...I thought I saw him pull up with hamstring injury but he played on.

The unbeaten run continues at least. Tougher test next week
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I didn't think we were bad at all today but threw away what should have been a comfortable win by dropping off and not pressing them after our goal. Every time we pressed their players they had a mistake in them so why did we drop back against ten men and just let them lump the ball into our box given the huge differences in height this was always going to get them a chance at some point. Then when we started attacking again we missed a sitter with Bowman and Taylor hits the post. Poor tactics cost us today rather than poor performance.
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Shade wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 18:02
Ihearye wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 17:55 Thought Archers defending today was exceptional
His all round game is superb. Given he's only played 14 or so EFL games, I think he's going to be at least a top L1 player. Probably Championship.
I can see Peterbrough putting in a bid in January just the sort of player they like and can sell on to the Championship in a year or two.
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When we went 1-0 up mentally it seemed they all wanted to sit back,Bromley changing it up with more giants had us on the back foot from then.
All it needed was the lads to stay calm get their foot on the ball and start passing it about and keeping possession, but we played into their hands.
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Bromley were absolutely huge. Clearly have a game plan and stuck to it. Not the best technically but they’ll get some results with that style and their goal was probably coming. Disappointing because we should be beating any team who have 10 for 70 minutes, particularly one below us, but we didn’t really turn up today. Thought Bradbury had a good game and the defence in general played well. Midfield was largely bypassed and it was an off-game for Thomas in my opinion. Had some good moments but a bit slow pulling the trigger. Miller works hard and loves the physical side but it’s a thankless task and he isn’t a goal threat. Looked like a sitter from Bowman at the end too.
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Leckyfan wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 18:50
Ihearye wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 16:53
Shade wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 15:00 What a f#!$ shambolic mess that was. Gurkhas just stood there at the sid of the pitch and then ushered away after the minutes silence without placing their wreath.
What an embarrassment
So then they came on and placed their wreath in the centre circle at half-time. Left the pitch, but told to come back put and do it all over again because the photographer missed it first time.

Certainly not dignified. Ceremonies don’t “just happen” - they need to be planned properly in advance, and details communicated properly to all those involved, including in this case the referee, photographer etc.
And these people are going to organise a fan zone??? Wreath just dumped there to be picked up by a groundsman before the second half kicked off. If this is the best the club can do , don't fecken bother in the first place
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Robin wrote:
Shade wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 18:02
Ihearye wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 17:55 Thought Archers defending today was exceptional
His all round game is superb. Given he's only played 14 or so EFL games, I think he's going to be at least a top L1 player. Probably Championship.
I can see Peterbrough putting in a bid in January just the sort of player they like and can sell on to the Championship in a year or two.
As long we aren’t shafted, because many times the club have been amateurs when it comes to negotiations.
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Malabus wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 22:43
Robin wrote:
Shade wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 18:02

His all round game is superb. Given he's only played 14 or so EFL games, I think he's going to be at least a top L1 player. Probably Championship.
I can see Peterbrough putting in a bid in January just the sort of player they like and can sell on to the Championship in a year or two.
As long we aren’t shafted, because many times the club have been amateurs when it comes to negotiations.
Given my expert knowledge of football agents and transfer strategy :lol: Selling in January is surely the wrong strategy? Hold on until at least the end of the season to increase his worth. Letting him go for yet another very low 6 figure sum is IMHO a poor business plan
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If we sell Archer in January it would be utter madness.

The board have proved time and time again....the art of the deal aludes them!!
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The Will Goodwin one went pretty well
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Garby74 wrote: 10 Nov 2024, 08:06
If we sell Archer in January it would be utter madness.

The board have proved time and time again....the art of the deal aludes them!!
Apart from the £400k for a player who has played 14 minutes this season having played barely more than that after we sold him in January last season. Or the £200k for a guy in his 30s and probably not worth half that.

For what it's worth, I don't see Archer going in January. Clubs buy players to push on in January, whilst he's ripe for Peterborough, I don't see them buying him to take them up - they'll get him in the summer to get him fully integrated into the team.

As for yesterday's game, I agree with Robin. There was no lack of effort and, by and large, the peformances were of a decent standard. We just got it wrong after scoring by trying to sit on the 1-0 lead. Bowman's miss will haunt him though and Taylor was really unlucky with the one that hit the post. We did enough to win, but Bromley deserve credit for continuing to push forward after going down to 10 men. They played to their strengths and will be difficult for any team this season. It's easy to see why they've drawn so many games.
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Si Robin wrote: 10 Nov 2024, 08:31
Garby74 wrote: 10 Nov 2024, 08:06
If we sell Archer in January it would be utter madness.

The board have proved time and time again....the art of the deal aludes them!!
For what it's worth, I don't see Archer going in January. Clubs buy players to push on in January, whilst he's ripe for Peterborough, I don't see them buying him to take them up - they'll get him in the summer to get him fully integrated into the team.
I agree I don't see him leaving but I can see him being sold unless we stay in the FA Cup and get a plum third round draw.

Following the Rotherham game MF alluded to players possibly being sold but loaned back, and I could see this happening although it would cause issues with the number of loan options we have.
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I have not watched the replay, however in real time from the CF I was expecting the offside flag to go up if Bowman scored. The weak effort made it moot.
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Warwickshire Robin wrote: 09 Nov 2024, 18:24 Obviously a disappointing result having played 11 v 10 for over an hour and taking the lead. Felt we played into their hands with far too many high balls upto Miller who whilst game and never gave up was on to a loser against their giant defenders.

When we looked dangerous was when we got it on the floor and played with a bit of pace, the goal came from a passage of play like this but we didn't do it enough

Hopefully we learn and move on and on the plus side another game unbeaten.
Massive gap between midfield and Miller they aren`t mobile enough to get up and down the pitch,we need some legs in there ?
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 10 Nov 2024, 10:00 I have not watched the replay, however in real time from the CF I was expecting the offside flag to go up if Bowman scored. The weak effort made it moot.
I thought the same - watching it back I firmly believe the flag goes up if it goes in.
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Warwickshire Robin wrote: 10 Nov 2024, 09:28
Si Robin wrote: 10 Nov 2024, 08:31
Garby74 wrote: 10 Nov 2024, 08:06
If we sell Archer in January it would be utter madness.

The board have proved time and time again....the art of the deal aludes them!!
For what it's worth, I don't see Archer going in January. Clubs buy players to push on in January, whilst he's ripe for Peterborough, I don't see them buying him to take them up - they'll get him in the summer to get him fully integrated into the team.
I agree I don't see him leaving but I can see him being sold unless we stay in the FA Cup and get a plum third round draw.

Following the Rotherham game MF alluded to players possibly being sold but loaned back, and I could see this happening although it would cause issues with the number of loan options we have.
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Some comments above and other posts do not take in to account that Gary Johnson is Director of Football. I do not think he will be "hoodwinked" by anyone.
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