George Miller made available for transfer

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RS1978
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I just hope that if we sell Archer/AJ-B/Miller/Thomas it happens quickly so we can get replacements in with a bit of time to gel before the season starts. Also, I hope that we've lined up backroom replacements, as we don't want a repeat of what happened under Wade🤔
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Ihearye wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 10:50
Robin wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 09:39
Fuller wrote: 13 Jun 2025, 21:34

Wonder what Flynn and Johnson think about all this?
I would imagine it's their decision, they are clearly looking to free up funds to bring in others. As said above this is exactly what we did in August last year with Kins and Bradbury and Jon Palmer also reported there were four players to transfer listed when the season ended. Only three were announced at the time so it seems they probably waited for Miller to see if really needed to transfer him or not.
What a peculiar business approach, sell your good ones, to free up money to gamble on others.
Worked Ok last season.
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HamTown wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 12:34
TheTownClub wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 12:12
Robin wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 11:09 It's what they did last summer with Street, Freestone and Bonds.
That was through dropping a division though. The message from the board this past season was we consolidate, identify a good core, and push on the following season. This is obviously not happening. The question is, why? What has changed.
Absolutely.

I hope its only a short term cash flow problem because we haven't definitely sold anyone yet.
Transfer windows closed. Players contracts run until end of June. Don't panic.
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horlickfanclub wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 13:38
HamTown wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 12:34
TheTownClub wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 12:12

That was through dropping a division though. The message from the board this past season was we consolidate, identify a good core, and push on the following season. This is obviously not happening. The question is, why? What has changed.
Absolutely.

I hope its only a short term cash flow problem because we haven't definitely sold anyone yet.
Transfer windows closed. Players contracts run until end of June. Don't panic.
There are loads of transfers happening, just look at the league two transfers thread. By July you won't get much left.
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horlickfanclub wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 13:38
HamTown wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 12:34
TheTownClub wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 12:12

That was through dropping a division though. The message from the board this past season was we consolidate, identify a good core, and push on the following season. This is obviously not happening. The question is, why? What has changed.
Absolutely.

I hope its only a short term cash flow problem because we haven't definitely sold anyone yet.
Transfer windows closed. Players contracts run until end of June. Don't panic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/transfers
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Trying and struggling to make sense of this one.

A player we bought (for money) on L2 wages AND has a relatively successful season, yet we have to sell him to fund other recruits?

If he leaves we'd need another striker surely with Bowman gone and Taylor on the transfer list...

Still don't get why these things are announced or leaked.
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Jim wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 16:39 Trying and struggling to make sense of this one.

A player we bought (for money) on L2 wages AND has a relatively successful season, yet we have to sell him to fund other recruits?

If he leaves we'd need another striker surely with Bowman gone and Taylor on the transfer list...

Still don't get why these things are announced or leaked.
Softens the blow…..
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Would it be too cynical of me to suggest this was always going to happen but they waited until after the early-bird season tickets were sold...?
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asl wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 16:52 Would it be too cynical of me to suggest this was always going to happen but they waited until after the early-bird season tickets were sold...?
Highly likely to be true, Jon Palmer reported that four players were set to be transfer listed, so it's clear been on the cards for a while. They either held off announcing it worrying about impact to season tickets or expected to sell someone quickly and that's not happened.
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horlickfanclub wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 13:36
Ihearye wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 10:50
Robin wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 09:39

I would imagine it's their decision, they are clearly looking to free up funds to bring in others. As said above this is exactly what we did in August last year with Kins and Bradbury and Jon Palmer also reported there were four players to transfer listed when the season ended. Only three were announced at the time so it seems they probably waited for Miller to see if really needed to transfer him or not.
What a peculiar business approach, sell your good ones, to free up money to gamble on others.
Worked Ok last season.
Yes the patient is still alive
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It used to be called wheeling and dealing.

Does anybody really want to go into the season with George as our No 1 striker ?

None of us know what's going on behind the scenes.
A week of bad news none the less , but it'll only need one decent signing to change all that.......unless it's a centre back from non- league which will send the snobbish Nesters into apopolyptic rant mode.
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paperboy wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 19:22 It used to be called wheeling and dealing.

Does anybody really want to go into the season with George as our No 1 striker ?

None of us know what's going on behind the scenes.
A week of bad news none the less , but it'll only need one decent signing to change all that.......unless it's a centre back from non- league which will send the snobbish Nesters into apopolyptic rant mode.
I do believe that there's a 20 goal per season striker in him.

Not knowing behind the scenes is part of the problem, the communication is so non existent it leaves everyone filling in the vacuum. Im not one for bashing the board but it's so similar to last season it leaves me annoyed and baffled they haven't learnt from their mistakes to the point it's almost disrespectful to the fans.
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Might it not simply be that these sales/releases reflect that the Board is trying to get the books into the best possible shape financially, so as to get the best possible price from any new Investor(s)?

Leaving said Investor(s) to deal with assembling a decent squad post-purchase?
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Ihearye wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 10:50
Robin wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 09:39
Fuller wrote: 13 Jun 2025, 21:34

Wonder what Flynn and Johnson think about all this?
I would imagine it's their decision, they are clearly looking to free up funds to bring in others. As said above this is exactly what we did in August last year with Kins and Bradbury and Jon Palmer also reported there were four players to transfer listed when the season ended. Only three were announced at the time so it seems they probably waited for Miller to see if really needed to transfer him or not.
What a peculiar business approach, sell your good ones, to free up money to gamble on others.
Develop assets, sell developed assets. Find new assets to develop. Repeat.
For one, it's how venture capital works.
Except here we do it to try to continually punch above our weight.
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Artemis wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 06:02
Ihearye wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 10:50
Robin wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 09:39

I would imagine it's their decision, they are clearly looking to free up funds to bring in others. As said above this is exactly what we did in August last year with Kins and Bradbury and Jon Palmer also reported there were four players to transfer listed when the season ended. Only three were announced at the time so it seems they probably waited for Miller to see if really needed to transfer him or not.
What a peculiar business approach, sell your good ones, to free up money to gamble on others.
Develop assets, sell developed assets. Find new assets to develop. Repeat.
For one, it's how venture capital works.
Except here we do it to try to continually punch above our weight.
I therefore eagerly await the money rolling in for the offers on Mr Miller. And there was me thinking he was purchased as a 'oven ready' forward who could do a job. Didn't realise he was purchased as a development project - I will get my orthopaedic shoes
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Ihearye wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 08:41
Artemis wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 06:02
Ihearye wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 10:50
What a peculiar business approach, sell your good ones, to free up money to gamble on others.
Develop assets, sell developed assets. Find new assets to develop. Repeat.
For one, it's how venture capital works.
Except here we do it to try to continually punch above our weight.
I therefore eagerly await the money rolling in for the offers on Mr Miller. And there was me thinking he was purchased as a 'oven ready' forward who could do a job. Didn't realise he was purchased as a development project - I will get my orthopaedic shoes
Exactly - I like Miller, but his 9 league goals and overall form doesn't suggest a long queue looking to spend 6 figures on him.

Plus, surely we don't need to actively put him up for transfer if he's been developed into a desirable target. Players up for transfer tend to be to get them off the books, not make a profit.
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Wellwisher wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 22:48 Might it not simply be that these sales/releases reflect that the Board is trying to get the books into the best possible shape financially, so as to get the best possible price from any new Investor(s)?

Leaving said Investor(s) to deal with assembling a decent squad post-purchase?
Sorry but no, the owners are not looking to make money from selling the club they are looking to put into the best possible hands to take the club forward. I will criticise the board when it's warranted but even implying they are out for profit is extremely wide of the mark.

It's way more likely that they simply don't want to go into any sort of debt and won't extend the playing budget until the investment is secured/
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Jim wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 09:13
Ihearye wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 08:41
Artemis wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 06:02

Develop assets, sell developed assets. Find new assets to develop. Repeat.
For one, it's how venture capital works.
Except here we do it to try to continually punch above our weight.
I therefore eagerly await the money rolling in for the offers on Mr Miller. And there was me thinking he was purchased as a 'oven ready' forward who could do a job. Didn't realise he was purchased as a development project - I will get my orthopaedic shoes
Exactly - I like Miller, but his 9 league goals and overall form doesn't suggest a long queue looking to spend 6 figures on him.

Plus, surely we don't need to actively put him up for transfer if he's been developed into a desirable target. Players up for transfer tend to be to get them off the books, not make a profit.
I don't believe he's been transfer listed because we want to generate a fee, I would not be surprised if we let him leave for free. It will be down to wages and trying to free up space to bring others in just like last summer.
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All will be become clearer in the next ten days. Get the flannels ready to wipe the egg of faces.
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horlickfanclub wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 13:03 All will be become clearer in the next ten days. Get the flannels ready to wipe the egg of faces.
To be fair we shouldn't have to wait ten days, the way this has come out is solely on the club I'm afraid, it's terrible PR.
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I will rephrase. " During the next ten days" . Not sure what is expected . When deals are signed is good for me. Rumours and reliance on bookies suit others. Its a funny old game.
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Robin wrote:
horlickfanclub wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 13:03 All will be become clearer in the next ten days. Get the flannels ready to wipe the egg of faces.
To be fair we shouldn't have to wait ten days, the way this has come out is solely on the club I'm afraid, it's terrible PR.
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horlickfanclub wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 14:59 I will rephrase. " During the next ten days" . Not sure what is expected . When deals are signed is good for me. Rumours and reliance on bookies suit others. Its a funny old game.
That's grand , you won't mind if I keep in the back of my head that a majority of who we signed last year are not good enough for this year
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It just doesn‘t make sense that we‘re selling a player who we signed on L2 wages only 10 months ago. I thought he was one of the positives from last season, 9 goals, only 26 starts and mostly playing as a lone striker who was bringing others into the game. Genuinely can‘t understand the criticism he gets in some quarters.
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Ihearye wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:43 That's grand , you won't mind if I keep in the back of my head that a majority of who we signed last year are not good enough for this year
I'm not terribly convinced they were good enough for *last* year, neither...
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asl wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 17:11
Ihearye wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:43 That's grand , you won't mind if I keep in the back of my head that a majority of who we signed last year are not good enough for this year
I'm not terribly convinced they were good enough for *last* year, neither...
:D some might indeed say that
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Blimey the board have really stirred up a hornets nest by revealing that George Miller, who will surely go down in folklore as one of our greatest ever strikers, has been transfer listed to help pay the rent.
Compelling viewing and I can't wait for the next episode.
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paperboy wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 20:17 Blimey the board have really stirred up a hornets nest by revealing that George Miller, who will surely go down in folklore as one of our greatest ever strikers, has been transfer listed to help pay the rent.
Compelling viewing and I can't wait for the next episode.
Despite your sarcasm, he was our most reliable striker last season, so take the pi55 as much as you want
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paperboy wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 20:17 Blimey the board have really stirred up a hornets nest by revealing that George Miller, who will surely go down in folklore as one of our greatest ever strikers, has been transfer listed to help pay the rent.
Compelling viewing and I can't wait for the next episode.
Losing Miller isn’t the end of the world. However, the reasoning behind selling him to ‘balance the books’ is the worry. And the fact it’s come out just after the early bird ST expired…

Imo we don’t need to panic too much, yet, but it is certainly doesn’t fill me with hope.
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Ihearye wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 21:05
paperboy wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 20:17 Blimey the board have really stirred up a hornets nest by revealing that George Miller, who will surely go down in folklore as one of our greatest ever strikers, has been transfer listed to help pay the rent.
Compelling viewing and I can't wait for the next episode.
Despite your sarcasm, he was our most reliable striker last season, so take the pi55 as much as you want
Yes, the fact that George is an unspectacular, but steady, forward on L2 wages is precisely the point.

Clubs like us will always sell prized assets like Thomas/Archer. No complaints about that. Being forced flog your cheapish, workaday centre forward to balance the books is ringing major alarm bells, though.
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HamTown wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 20:17
paperboy wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 19:22 It used to be called wheeling and dealing.

Does anybody really want to go into the season with George as our No 1 striker ?

None of us know what's going on behind the scenes.
A week of bad news none the less , but it'll only need one decent signing to change all that.......unless it's a centre back from non- league which will send the snobbish Nesters into apopolyptic rant mode.
I do believe that there's a 20 goal per season striker in him.

Not knowing behind the scenes is part of the problem, the communication is so non existent it leaves everyone filling in the vacuum. Im not one for bashing the board but it's so similar to last season it leaves me annoyed and baffled they haven't learnt from their mistakes to the point it's almost disrespectful to the fans.

Iv said it for years (And got shot down on most occasions) that the clubs media is a big problem. No engaging content, No interesting interaction with players or management other than the usual scripted pre and post match interviews with the same old questions from the BBC and Glos Live and even some of those didn't happen last season, Particularly pre match. Still very much non league in the media sense.
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paperboy wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 20:17 Blimey the board have really stirred up a hornets nest by revealing that George Miller, who will surely go down in folklore as one of our greatest ever strikers, has been transfer listed to help pay the rent.
Compelling viewing and I can't wait for the next episode.
To be fair - the board haven't revealed anything. That is part of the problem.
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Si Robin wrote:
paperboy wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 20:17 Blimey the board have really stirred up a hornets nest by revealing that George Miller, who will surely go down in folklore as one of our greatest ever strikers, has been transfer listed to help pay the rent.
Compelling viewing and I can't wait for the next episode.
To be fair - the board haven't revealed anything. That is part of the problem.
Exactly. A single poster put it on here and suddenly it’s true?
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Well, not exactly. It was posted by JP on Twitter and Jerry simply regurgitated it on here.
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ctfc-fan wrote:
Si Robin wrote:
paperboy wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 20:17 Blimey the board have really stirred up a hornets nest by revealing that George Miller, who will surely go down in folklore as one of our greatest ever strikers, has been transfer listed to help pay the rent.
Compelling viewing and I can't wait for the next episode.
To be fair - the board haven't revealed anything. That is part of the problem.
Exactly. A single poster put it on here and suddenly it’s true?
Ah I hadn’t seen a link to the story. Still potentially not fully true.
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