Cheltenham Town v Northampton Town
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Jon Palmer
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Playmeuptop
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Good to see Bonds back in. Recovered quickly from what at the time looked a bad one.
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art vandalay
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Three solid midfielders, but that’s it, solid. We lost some pace and creativity over the summer, haven’t yet replaced it, and it’s making a massive difference in the displays compared to the end of last season.
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Playmeuptop
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Don’t mind the formation with Thompson sitting in front of the 3 which allows WBs to push higher up. Needs to stick up front and build from there but just keeps coming back.
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Playmeuptop
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D’Henry only one who looks to create, looks decent going forward. Northampton creating too many good chances. I’d go 4-5-1 and push Henry on. Street and Keena offer very little. Need to find a strong CF on loan to boss defenders and hold it up for others then to support.
We lack a runner...someone who, the moment we get the ball, is looking to make a run down the middle. We had one of those, last season... The two we've got are standing still, waiting for the ball to be passed to their feet. 49 of the dullest minutes I've ever spent at Whaddon Road - the second half can only be better, can't it...?
People do realise we have a s#!t load of injuries to attacking players? Hardly anyone's fault that we have no creativity in midfield and bugger all up front. Hammond, Olayinka, Lloyd and I've grown bored of listing them. Just King and Adshead on the bench that even remotely look attacking, and one of thos is 5ft and 16...
But theyve got to get their heads up quicker and produce a bit of quality. They're better than this.
But theyve got to get their heads up quicker and produce a bit of quality. They're better than this.
Our passing isn’t sharp enough and there doesn’t seem to be any game plan anyway.
You have to have players up front who constantly look for the ball and midfield players who are capable of providing decent passes to them at the right times. You can’t take any old player in the squad and turn them into a striker, it’s a specialist position and they cost big money.
You have to have players up front who constantly look for the ball and midfield players who are capable of providing decent passes to them at the right times. You can’t take any old player in the squad and turn them into a striker, it’s a specialist position and they cost big money.
Feel for the team and Freestone .
Thought we were about to grind out a scrappy point , much needed , but alas..
Good to see Bonds back .
Credit to Street who just keeps on going .
Keena looks lost .
Freestone great but one mistake …
We look so threadbare . Can’t see where a goal is going to come from . Seems like we operate as three different disconnected entities , with neither defense / midfield / forwards knowing what each are doing .
Thought we were about to grind out a scrappy point , much needed , but alas..
Good to see Bonds back .
Credit to Street who just keeps on going .
Keena looks lost .
Freestone great but one mistake …
We look so threadbare . Can’t see where a goal is going to come from . Seems like we operate as three different disconnected entities , with neither defense / midfield / forwards knowing what each are doing .
Could we do an exchange deal with Glos City-
Keena for Danny Wright ?
..or get Julian Alsop or Jason White in.
Missing attacking midfielders in Olayinka and Hammond, but ,big, big week for the club to get an oven ready striker in or we'll be looking at free agents on the bargain shelf.
Keena for Danny Wright ?
..or get Julian Alsop or Jason White in.
Missing attacking midfielders in Olayinka and Hammond, but ,big, big week for the club to get an oven ready striker in or we'll be looking at free agents on the bargain shelf.
On paper that was a decent 11 team out there today. Maybe threadbare on the bench, first 11 most of which played the later stages last season reasonably well. So something is not quite right. (obvious).
Doesn't get easier with Barnsley next.
Will will hear that we are minnows and will have to scrap, and lowest budget etc etc. But something has to happen on the training ground to spark our attack in to life. No guarantee a new striker will solve the problem. May do but not a cert.
A team like Spurs lose there top striker and with no obvious replacement, can I think bang in 6 goals in 3 games. That is down to their manager solving the problem.
I am all for Wade staying, no doubt about it, but we need him and his team to solve this problem. How they do that is what he is paid to do. I have my own ideas as we all do.
It just seems we have certain patterns of play which appear predictable
For you following my striker tip ...Will Evans from Newport...has scored again. The Board get the cheque book out and give the team a lift.
I don't believe we can't fork out 100K over 2 or 3 years....especially if we stay in Lg1. Even 150k over 3yrs is peanuts.
Doesn't get easier with Barnsley next.
Will will hear that we are minnows and will have to scrap, and lowest budget etc etc. But something has to happen on the training ground to spark our attack in to life. No guarantee a new striker will solve the problem. May do but not a cert.
A team like Spurs lose there top striker and with no obvious replacement, can I think bang in 6 goals in 3 games. That is down to their manager solving the problem.
I am all for Wade staying, no doubt about it, but we need him and his team to solve this problem. How they do that is what he is paid to do. I have my own ideas as we all do.
It just seems we have certain patterns of play which appear predictable
For you following my striker tip ...Will Evans from Newport...has scored again. The Board get the cheque book out and give the team a lift.
I don't believe we can't fork out 100K over 2 or 3 years....especially if we stay in Lg1. Even 150k over 3yrs is peanuts.
Bottom of the table and we looked it. Absolute clueless performance. Are set-pieces practiced on the training pitch...? There was no gameplan, we looked very lost.
Next six days are crucial. Does the board want a L1 club, or is it the case of little old Cheltenham and we just go from season to season mid-table in the league below.
Where does the board want this club to be?
All areas of this club needs a kick up the arse ASAP.
Next six days are crucial. Does the board want a L1 club, or is it the case of little old Cheltenham and we just go from season to season mid-table in the league below.
Where does the board want this club to be?
All areas of this club needs a kick up the arse ASAP.
paperboy wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 16:25 Could we do an exchange deal with Glos City-
Keena for Danny Wright ?
..or get Julian Alsop or Jason White in.
Missing attacking midfielders in Olayinka and Hammond, but ,big, big week for the club to get an oven ready striker in or we'll be looking at free agents on the bargain shelf.
One striker will not solve our problems I'm afraid. That was rank awful today and shows how much we are missing going forward. Big changes needed and not just one or two young kids on loan to sit on the bench.
1985CTFC wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 16:40 On paper that was a decent 11 team out there today. Maybe threadbare on the bench, first 11 most of which played the later stages last season reasonably well. So something is not quite right. (obvious).
Doesn't get easier with Barnsley next.
Will will hear that we are minnows and will have to scrap, and lowest budget etc etc. But something has to happen on the training ground to spark our attack in to life. No guarantee a new striker will solve the problem. May do but not a cert.
A team like Spurs lose there top striker and with no obvious replacement, can I think bang in 6 goals in 3 games. That is down to their manager solving the problem.
I am all for Wade staying, no doubt about it, but we need him and his team to solve this problem. How they do that is what he is paid to do. I have my own ideas as we all do.
It just seems we have certain patterns of play which appear predictable
For you following my striker tip ...Will Evans from Newport...has scored again. The Board get the cheque book out and give the team a lift.
I don't believe we can't fork out 100K over 2 or 3 years....especially if we stay in Lg1. Even 150k over 3yrs is peanuts.
Decent team defensively maybe but it was a midfield who don't compliment one another and the same issue up front. Keena desperately needs a partner to play off, whilst Street is a proper workhorse he's no threat in the box.
Sat in the CF this afternoon and looked at the team and individually I rate most of them, but as Robin mentioned the midfield isn't balanced.
Southwood is a great keeper but his distribution was v poor today. Freestone has been our best player this season, and Davies looking much better. Thought Bonds looked good considering he's been out, and Thompson decent and getting stronger. Street full of endeavour and Keena is off it but I think that's down to how we're playing more than anything.
So the main issue is the balance of the squad and team instruction and coaching. Personally I'll give Wade till October to make things work, he's turned dodgy periods around before so deserves a bit of time with what will hopefully be a full squad.
Currently, however we're clueless in possession and going forward and that's down to the manager and HoR
Southwood is a great keeper but his distribution was v poor today. Freestone has been our best player this season, and Davies looking much better. Thought Bonds looked good considering he's been out, and Thompson decent and getting stronger. Street full of endeavour and Keena is off it but I think that's down to how we're playing more than anything.
So the main issue is the balance of the squad and team instruction and coaching. Personally I'll give Wade till October to make things work, he's turned dodgy periods around before so deserves a bit of time with what will hopefully be a full squad.
Currently, however we're clueless in possession and going forward and that's down to the manager and HoR
Can't argue with the result other than a 10 minute period they were the better side. They hit the bar and had a few narrow misses. Maybe also should have had a penalty?
For me wathing that today it was a case of one team who appeared to be better coached than the other. On paper both sides looked evenly matched but they were better drilled and better with the ball. We looked clueless. Our midfield were too slow and no one was driving the team forward. A lot has been said about the strikers but they are getting no service from the midfield. Also our press is non existent at the moment. Im all for sitting back away from home but at home i want to see us pressure sides and force some mistakes.
For me wathing that today it was a case of one team who appeared to be better coached than the other. On paper both sides looked evenly matched but they were better drilled and better with the ball. We looked clueless. Our midfield were too slow and no one was driving the team forward. A lot has been said about the strikers but they are getting no service from the midfield. Also our press is non existent at the moment. Im all for sitting back away from home but at home i want to see us pressure sides and force some mistakes.
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London Exile
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art vandalay wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 14:39 Three solid midfielders, but that’s it, solid. We lost some pace and creativity over the summer, haven’t yet replaced it, and it’s making a massive difference in the displays compared to the end of last season.
Agree with the midfield comments. All 3 seemed to do the same where they sit and shield the defence with Bonds trying to play quarterback style balls which Northampton screened and dealt with easily.
I felt sorry for the front two because they had sod all service.
We were extremely slow moving the ball around, there may be a time and place to take the sting out of a game and slow it down but that seemed to be the robins game plan for 90 minutes.
A striker and creative midfielder would change that team from today massively but it will come at a huge cost and one the club can’t afford unless Russ can play a blinder with a couple of loans.
That would be a mistake, if the moaning minority managed to persuade the board to sack a proven, successful manager, without a replacement.
I remember the doom and gloom brigade forcing out our most successful manager (Mark Yates) which led directly to us being relegated to the conference. It seems some have short memories and forget that last season was our best ever. These wind up merchants actively want us to fail.
Mal’s always on a wind up but don’t underestimate how this snow-balled before. Soon you’ll have normal, sensible people demanding something that will inevitably lead to our relegation.
It’s simple. De ja vu all over again Rodney!
I mentioned last season the club had to decide on what they wanted - stick for another season of waiting to be relegated or twist for better things. But 5 games in is such an immature time to be demanding we get ensure relegation by changing managers
I'VE FOUND THE ANSWER TO OUR PROBLEM
10 Tips for Strikers to Score More Goals
Find small windows or open spaces to take a shot. You don’t need a large amount of open space to score. Get your shot off when you can as you might score from a deflection. Don’t wait for the perfect opportunity, take what you can!
Read the game and anticipate where the ball is going. The best strikers know where to be before the ball gets there. Constantly scan the field and anticipate where the ball is going so you can get there at the right time.
Follow up shots. So many goals are scored from rebounds. Learn to follow up every shot so it becomes a habit.
Close defenders down and force them to put their heads down. When defenders are put under pressure they often make mistakes. These mistakes will lead to you scoring more goals.
Develop the ability to hit the ball with all parts of both feet. There are going to be many times when you have an opportunity to shoot with your weaker foot. Train both feet so you are ready for these moments!
Learn to redirect the ball. Before the ball comes to you, be ready to shoot by adjusting your body and position. Turn your hips and shoulders to face where you're aiming to hit the ball on goal.
Slot the ball past the keeper, don't over hit it. When close to goal placement is always more important than power. Take power off of your shot and focus on simply passing into the corner.
Freeze the keeper with a fake shot. When you’re on a 1v1 with the goalkeeper, a fake shot or move can freeze them so you can dribble around them.
Practice your heading technique. Get a friend to throw or cross a ball so you can practice your heading technique. Work on jumping high and heading the ball firmly down towards the goal line.
Find a wall to work on striking the ball with both feet. Use your laces to strike the ball against the wall as if you are shooting. Hours of practice like this will help your overall technique
This is of course tongue in cheek!!! Before anyone mocks
10 Tips for Strikers to Score More Goals
Find small windows or open spaces to take a shot. You don’t need a large amount of open space to score. Get your shot off when you can as you might score from a deflection. Don’t wait for the perfect opportunity, take what you can!
Read the game and anticipate where the ball is going. The best strikers know where to be before the ball gets there. Constantly scan the field and anticipate where the ball is going so you can get there at the right time.
Follow up shots. So many goals are scored from rebounds. Learn to follow up every shot so it becomes a habit.
Close defenders down and force them to put their heads down. When defenders are put under pressure they often make mistakes. These mistakes will lead to you scoring more goals.
Develop the ability to hit the ball with all parts of both feet. There are going to be many times when you have an opportunity to shoot with your weaker foot. Train both feet so you are ready for these moments!
Learn to redirect the ball. Before the ball comes to you, be ready to shoot by adjusting your body and position. Turn your hips and shoulders to face where you're aiming to hit the ball on goal.
Slot the ball past the keeper, don't over hit it. When close to goal placement is always more important than power. Take power off of your shot and focus on simply passing into the corner.
Freeze the keeper with a fake shot. When you’re on a 1v1 with the goalkeeper, a fake shot or move can freeze them so you can dribble around them.
Practice your heading technique. Get a friend to throw or cross a ball so you can practice your heading technique. Work on jumping high and heading the ball firmly down towards the goal line.
Find a wall to work on striking the ball with both feet. Use your laces to strike the ball against the wall as if you are shooting. Hours of practice like this will help your overall technique
This is of course tongue in cheek!!! Before anyone mocks